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Hi Mark, I was not able to join the scheduled meeting today (11 January 2011). When using the code provided I was told the meeting was in the past! Also when I've tried to review recordings of previous meetings I'm unable to. The message received is that ''Your session has expired. You will need to login again''. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 21:38, 11 January 2011 (UTC)  
 
Hi Mark, I was not able to join the scheduled meeting today (11 January 2011). When using the code provided I was told the meeting was in the past! Also when I've tried to review recordings of previous meetings I'm unable to. The message received is that ''Your session has expired. You will need to login again''. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 21:38, 11 January 2011 (UTC)  
  
 
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It' s definitely not only a family history but a list of web links as well, so as to help - and save time to - any searcher in this field. Perhaps you read this document quickly? Please go to the bottom of this page and make your mind (sorry for french parts of the text). Thanks.  
 
It' s definitely not only a family history but a list of web links as well, so as to help - and save time to - any searcher in this field. Perhaps you read this document quickly? Please go to the bottom of this page and make your mind (sorry for french parts of the text). Thanks.  
  
 
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"Jacques CORTELYOU Sr
 
"Jacques CORTELYOU Sr
 
== Miscellaneous and quick links about Cortelyou family origins ==
 
 
<p>Jacques CORTELYOU Sr, son of Abraham Cortillon/Cortelyou
 
</p><p>«&nbsp;ID: I16054
 
<p>Abraham COURTILLON 1
 
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgibin/igm.cgi?op=GET&amp;db=barbarapumyea&amp;id=I03708
 
</p>
 
</p><p>·  Sex: M
 
<p>·  Birth: ABT 1560-1568 in France
 
·  Death: BET. 1593 -1633 in Utrecht, The Netherlands
 
·  Event: Individual Note BEF 1610 Walloon emigrant from France or Belgium to Holland
 
·  Reference Number: 3039
 
· Marriage 1 Unknown BET. 1579 - 1611
 
· Children
 
1. Jaques Jacobus CORTELYOU b: ABT 1585 in Utrecht, The Netherlands
 
Sources:
 
1. Title: Dutch Colonies List at RootsWeb
 
Repository:
 
Note: Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com
 
Media: Internet
 
Text: e-mail from Alain COURTILLON &lt;alain.courtillon@orange.fr&gt; dated March 21, 2008
 
Subject thread " wonderful maps of NY (New Amsterdam)"
 
</p>
 
</p><p>2. ID: I32610
 
<p>Name: Abraham CORTELYOU 1 2
 
·  Sex: M
 
·  Birth: WFT Est. 1539-1568 1 2
 
·  Death: WFT Est. 1593-1653 1 2
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown ou Sarah Catherine Clarkson&nbsp;? (In:
 
<p>US and International marriage records 1560-1900  ancestry.com
 
· Married: WFT Est. 1563-1593 1 2
 
3.  LDS Church
 
http://www.familysearch.org/ENG/Search/PRF/individual_record.asp?recid=120958682&amp;frompage=99
 
Sarah Catherine Clarkson
 
In:
 
US and International marriage records 1560-1900  ancestry.com
 
</p>
 
</p><p>· Children
 
<p>1. Jacques CORTELYOU b: ABT. 1590 in Utrecht, Holland
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Sources:
 
<p>1. Title: World Family Tree Vol. 4, Ed. 1
 
Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc.
 
Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996
 
Note: Customer pedigree.
 
Repository:
 
Media: Family Archive CD
 
Page: Tree #3455
 
Text: Date of Import: Jul 20, 1999
 
2. Title: LeTeltier.FTW
 
Repository:
 
Media: Other
 
Text: Date of Import: Jul 20, 1999
 
3. Title: World Family Tree Vol. 32 (Disk #2), Ed. 1
 
Author: The Learning Company, Inc.
 
Publication: Release date: January 11, 1999
 
Note: Customer pedigree.
 
Repository:
 
Media: Family Archive CD
 
Page: Tree #0349·
 
4. Sur LDS, Jacques COTILLON http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/family_group_record.asp?familyid=63500508&amp;lds=1&amp;region=5&amp;frompage=99
 
Jaques CORTILLON b: 1590 in France, died on May 31 1653. He was living in Utrecht after 1600.
 
He was married to Alsken (Elsie) HENDRICKS on Apr 14 1612 in Utrecht, Netherlands.
 
Alsken (Elsie) HENDRICKS died on Dec 7 1663 in Teelingstraat, Netherlands. She was buried St. Nicholas Church. Her name may have been Elsken.
 
Children were:
 
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</p><p>child I  Abraham COURTILLON was born in 1612 in Utrecht, Netherlands. He was baptized on Dec 13 1612. m. Sarah Catherine Clarkson&nbsp;?
 
<p>child ii.  Jeanne COURTAILLEAU was born about 1615 in Utrecht, Netherlands.
 
child iii. Jennecken COURTAILLOT was born about 1617 in Utrecht, Netherlands.
 
child iv. Judith COURTELEAU was born in 1620 in Utrecht, Netherlands. She died on Nov 9 1684.
 
child v.  1634(&nbsp;?)  Jacques CORTELYOU (immigrant)&nbsp;».
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Sur une liste de «&nbsp;Hamburgers (citoyens)&nbsp;» venus à Utrecht
 
<p>http://www.den-braber.nl/vpnd/ut/utrecht_burgers.html
 
on trouve Jacques, inscrit le 13 décembre 1617 comme «&nbsp;als trijpwerker&nbsp;» (tisserand de velours).Il est seulement mentionné qu'il est venu de "Welslant"ou "Wa(a)lslant", qui signifie «&nbsp;la terre des Wallons&nbsp;», probablement la Wallonie, mais vu d’Utrecht à cette époque cela pourrait aussi avoir été la France. Il est dommage que la ville ne soit pas mentionnée. Son nom est écrit Jacques "Corliere", ou probablement "Cortilje", c’est difficile à lire. La liste a été dressée en 1887, et probablement chaque Hamburger ne figure pas forcément dessus. Si ABRAHAM, son père, est venu à Utrecht, il n'avait peut-être pas les moyens de devenir un «&nbsp;Hamburger&nbsp;».
 
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</p><p>«&nbsp;Jacques  était un Wallon, groupe de français catholiques persécutés pour leur croyance.
 
<p>Ils ont quitté la France autour de 1600 et ont cherché refuge au Danemark (&nbsp;?) où leurs croyances ont été tolérées. Après être resté au Danemark (&nbsp;?) pendant environ 40-50 années, beaucoup de membres du groupe sont passés en Amérique où ils se sont installés à New Amsterdam dans ce qui est maintenant New York City.( Henry Stiles,  http://moa.umdl.umich.edu/)&nbsp;»
 
«&nbsp;Il y avait beaucoup de personnes qui ont émigré de Hollande qui étaient d'origine wallonne. Quand le sanguinaire duc d'Alva a hérité des Pays Bas espagnols en 1567, revêtu de la puissance despotique sur les provinces par le fanatique Philip II., plus de 100.000 des protestants des provinces wallonnes se sont sauvés en Angleterre, sous la protection de la reine Elizabeth, ou chez leurs frères de Zeeland et de Nederland. Ils ont gardé leur langue, celle de la Gaule ancienne, et ont été connus en Angleterre comme Wallons, et en Hollande comme Waalen, du nom de leur province, appelée «&nbsp;Gaulsche&nbsp;», ou, tel que ce mot était prononcé, «&nbsp;Waalsche&nbsp;».
 
Le nombre de fugitifs de la persécution religieuse a été augmenté en même temps par le flux des protestants de France, et encore, cinq ans après, par le massacre mémorable de la St Barthélémy.
 
Quand la Compagnie des Indes Occidentales les a recrutés, plusieurs de ces personnes et leurs descendants ont cherché à s’établir aux Nouveaux Pays Bas. Tels étaient les fondateurs des familles Rapelye, Cortelyou, Dubois, De Bevoise, Duryea, Crommelin, Conselyes, Montague, Fontaine, et d'autres. Le Waalebocht, ou secteur des Wallons, était ainsi appelé parce que certains d'entre eux s’installèrent à cet endroit.&nbsp;».
 
Le 7 novembre 1651, l’Honorable Cornelis van Werckhoven, un des édiles («&nbsp;schepens&nbsp;») du vieil Utrecht, a donné avis à la Chambre d'Amsterdam de son intention d’implanter deux colonies dans les limites territoriales des Nouveaux Pays-Bas. (Cf. Documents Relating to the Colonial History of New York ed. by O'Callaghan and Fernow; vol 13, p. 29 &amp; pp. 33-34; vol 14, p. 190).
 
"Si les familles Corteljou (on prononçait ‘Cortelyow’) et van Werckhoven étaient amies, ou autrement dit comment le Conseiller a été mis en contact avec le jeune Jaques, sont des détails qui ont été perdus. Mais les qualifications de Jaques doivent avoir été évaluées d’un niveau suffisant pour justifier sa sélection pour accompagner la famille aux Amériques en 1652 en tant que précepteur privé des jeunes Pieter et Cornelis van Werckhoven."
 
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</p><p>Ils ont peut-être voyagé sur le navire “The Flower of Gelder” (Geldersche Blom), armateur W. van Twiller, arrivé à New Amsterdam le 24 Juillet 1652?
 
<p>“Arent van Hattum was an early Burgomaster of New Amsterdam in 1653 and 1654.
 
Arent came here with Cornelis van Werckhoven, the founder of New Utrecht, and like Cornelis eventually returned also to Patria.”
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Jaques Cortelyou avait été nommé, vue sa bonne réputation, et sur requête pressante de van Werckhoven, «&nbsp;Schout* de la Nouvelle Amsterdam» , une fonction combinant celles de shérif, de procureur et de président de la cour de justice de la Nouvelle Amsterdam,  le 21 juillet 1654&nbsp;; ayant des scrupules à en respecter les instructions, il avait refusé cette proposition (16 septembre 1654). (*«&nbsp;The schout and schepens mentioned in this first charter to a Dutch town are the officers of the local court. The schout corresponded in the main to the modern prosecuting attorney, although at times his duties took part of those of the nature of the sheriff, and at other times he presided over the court&nbsp;»)( N. Y. Col. Doc., XIII. 196; Instructions for Schout of New Amsterdam, April 9, 1660, N. Y. Col. Doc., XIV. 463.))( voir aussi  p.588  History of the State of  New-York&nbsp;: 27 Juillet 1654)
 
</p><p>“ Extract from a letter of the Directors to Stuyvesant&nbsp;; the negotiations regarding a division of the Delaware territory have resulted in the surrender of Fort Casimir (New Castle) and the land south of it to the City of Amsterdam&nbsp;; the new Colony is to be called New-Amstel and Jacob Alrichs is to be the City’s  representative there. 
 
<p>19 Decbr. 1656
 
Colonial settlements on the Delaware river - New York Historical Records. p.133&nbsp;:
 
</p>
 
</p><p>…As we have heard, that there lives on the bouwery of the late Mr. Werckhoven †,
 
<p>a certain party, being well versed in engineering and surveying, who consequently might
 
be of service to the said new Colony as well in laying out the lots chosen for the dwelling-
 
houses of the colonists as in other ways, therefore your Honors will, upon request,
 
persuade the said engineer thereto and let him go thither, to make a good beginning and
 
location there…&nbsp;»
 
</p>
 
</p><p><br/>
 
<p>En 1657, les plus hautes autorités administratives  des colonies hollandaises validèrent l’entreprise de Jaques de fonder une ville à Long Island sur la Baie de la Rivière du Nord. En mémoire de sa ville natale en Hollande, également celle de son patron, Jaques a donné à ce village le nom de Nieuw Uijtrecht «&nbsp;Nouvelle Utrecht&nbsp;». (cf. The Brooklyn Historical Society - Timeline of Brooklyn History.)
 
Le relevé de 1660 de Manhattan, appelé habituellement le "Castellano" ou Plan "Castello" a été  préparé par Jacques Cortelyou.
 
(Ce plan a été redécouvert à la Villa di Castello, près de Florence en Italie in 1900. Il avait été joint à un atlas vendu à un membre de la famille Médicis).
 
Les détails de ce relevé incluaient aussi un enregistrement de chaque résidence et sont encore une source de référence pour les généalogistes et les historiens.
 
Voir http://www.teachout.org/vna/map.html pour une version coloriée, moderne et  interactive.
 
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</p><p>Il a ainsi participé lui-même à la fondation de deux colonies&nbsp;:  New Utrecht sur Long Island et, en  1660, il avait dessiné Bergen Square, site de la première ville aux limites actuelles de l’état du New Jersey à recevoir une charte municipale. History of the City of New York in the Seventeenth Century, Volume I, Schuyler Van Rensselear, New York, 1909
 
</p><p>Jasper Dankaerts et Sluyter, des Labadistes, dans leur journal de voyage (Journal of a Voyage to New York in 1679-80  Journal of Jasper Danckaerts, 1679-1680, edited by Bartlett Burleigh James, Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, 1913) parlent de Jacques CORTELYOU en termes louables
 
</p><p>Il est décédé après le 28 Février 1693 d’après Geraldus Beekman. (Cf.  Documentary History of New York, ed. by O'Callaghan, vol II, pp. 414-415)et avant le 27 Juillet 1693 “when his widow gave a power of attorney: "Neeltje van Duyn, of New Utrecht, widow of Jacques Corteljau, deceased, to her sons, Jacques and Peter, to settle the estate of his late father.")(“Cf. Calendar of Historical Manuscripts..., part II, English Manuscripts,ed. by O'Callaghan, p. 235.”), probablement le Samedi 27 Juin 1693. (cf.http://genealogie.correlje.com/families/cortelyou/stamboom/#p1#p1 )
 
</p><p>REFERENCES
 
</p><p><br/>
 
<p>The Island at the Center of the World: The Epic Story of Dutch Manhattan and the Forgotten Colony that Shaped America, Russell Shorto, Doubleday, New York, 2004
 
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</p><p>The Cortelyou Genealogy: A Record of Jaques Corteljou and of many of his Descendants, John Van Zandt Cortelyou, Brown Printing Service, Lincoln, Nebraska, 1942
 
</p><p><br/>
 
<p>Miscellaneous. http://www.angelfire.com/ny/chickened/cortelyoufamily.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Register in alphabetical order, of the early settlers of Kings County, Long Island, N.Y.&nbsp;: from its first settlement by Europeans to 1700&nbsp;: with contributions to their biographies and genealogies, compiled from various sources
 
<p>Author: Teunis G. Bergen
 
Publisher: S.W. Green's Son Publication Date: 1881
 
City: New York Pages: 454 page images, voir p. 75
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Brodhead. History of N. Y., vol. i, pp. 588, 693; General Entries, vol. 4, pp. 113, 124;
 
</p><p>Collections of N. Y. Hist. Society, 1892, pp. 220, 231;
 
</p><p>Court of Assizes,vol. 2, pp. 614, 656;
 
</p><p>Bergen. History of New Utrecht (Brooklyn, 1884), pp. 3-4;
 
</p><p>Doc. Hist, of N. Y.(octavo edition), vol. i, p. 633.”
 
</p><p>Henry Stiles
 
<p>A history of the city of Brooklyn.
 
Author:  Stiles, Henry Reed, 1832-1909.
 
Publication Info: Brooklyn, N.Y.,: Pub. by subscription, 1867-70
 
</p>
 
</p><p>History of the City of New York  Par William Irving Paulding, David Thomas Valentine
 
</p><p>History of the City of New York in the Seventeenth Century, Volume I, Schuyler Van Rensselear, New York, 1909
 
<p>^ History of the City of New York in the Seventeenth Century, Mrs. Schuyler Van Rensselaer, Vol. I, The Macmillan Company, New York, 1909
 
</p>
 
</p><p>^ Register in Alphabetical Order, of the Early Settlers of Kings County, Long Island, Teunis G. Bergen, S.W. Green's Son, New York, 1881
 
</p><p>^ Collections of the New York Historical Society for the Year 1896, George Folsom, Printed for the Society, New York, 1896
 
<p>^ Year Book of the Holland Society of New York, Prepared by the Recording Secretary, 1915
 
</p>
 
</p><p>^ Calendar of Council Minutes 1668-1783, Berthold Fernow, University of the State of New York, 1902
 
</p><p><br/>
 
</p><p><br/>
 
</p><p>Minisink Valley Reformed Dutch Church Records, 1716-1830
 
<p>Volume V of the Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of New Paltz, New York
 
<p>Containing . . . Registers of Consistories, Members, Marriages, and Baptisms
 
</p>
 
</p><p>New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch Kingston Papers
 
<p>Two Volumes
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Bergen Records: Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Bergen in New Jersey, 1666 to 1788
 
<p>3 vols. in 1
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Genealogical Records
 
<p>Manuscript Entries of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Taken from Family Bibles, 1581-1917
 
http://www.genealogical.com/products/Genealogical%20Records/4990.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam and New York
 
<p>Marriages from 11 December, 1639, to 26 August, 1801
 
</p>
 
</p><p>The Register of New Netherland, 1626-1674 
 
<p>http://www.genealogical.com/products/The%20Register%20of%20New%20Netherland%201626%201674/9294.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Baptismal and Marriage Registers of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston, Ulster County, New York, 1660-1809
 
<p>http://www.genealogical.com/products/Baptismal%20and%20Marriage%20Registers%20of%20the%20Old%20Dutch%20Church%20of%20Kingston%20Ulster%20County%20New%20York%201660%201809/2757.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch Volumes XVIII-XIX. Delaware Papers (Dutch Period, 1646-1664)
 
<p>http://www.genealogical.com/products/New%20York%20Historical%20Manuscripts%20Dutch%20Volumes%20XVIII%20XIX%20%20Delaware%20Papers%20Dutch%20Period%201646%201664/2155.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch Volumes XX-XXI. Delaware Papers (English Period, 1664-1682)
 
<p>http://www.genealogical.com/products/New%20York%20Historical%20Manuscripts%20Dutch%20Volumes%20XX%20XXI%20%20Delaware%20Papers%20English%20Period%201664%201682/2160.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch. Volume V, Council Minutes
 
<p>http://www.genealogical.com/products/New%20York%20Historical%20Manuscripts%20Dutch%20%20Volume%20V%20Council%20Minutes/2157.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>Dutch Colonists in the Americas, 1615-1815
 
</p><p>The Holland and the England of the Pilgrims
 
<p>http://www.genealogical.com/products/The%20England%20and%20Holland%20of%20the%20Pilgrams/1460.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p><br/>
 
</p><p>The Burghers of New Amsterdam and the Freemen of New York 1675-1866
 
<p>http://www.genealogical.com/products/The%20Burghers%20of%20New%20Amsterdam%20and%20the%20Freemen%20of%20New%20York%201675%201866/9197.html
 
</p>
 
</p><p>On-Line Texts
 
<p>Documents
 
Documents of the New Netherland Project, New York State Library, NYC
 
New York City Documents, Columbia University, NYC
 
Journals
 
De Nieu Nederlanse Marcurius [Newsletter of the Friends of New Netherland; pdf files in English]
 
Images
 
Images From The New York Album, published 1883 by Wittemann Bros.
 
Photo Albums of the Five Boroughs. Centennial Presentation
 
Images from New York at the Turn of the Century
 
Early Films of New York 1898-1906, Library of Congress
 
The Construction of the Empire State Building, 1930-1931, New York Public Library
 
New York Public Library On-Line Photographs, New York Public Library
 
New York City Highlights
 
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Findings about Cortelyou family history

Hi, SummerhaysMV

I was confused you delete my 2 years search'contribution to FamilySearch.

It' s definitely not only a family history but a list of web links as well, so as to help - and save time to - any searcher in this field. Perhaps you read this document quickly? Please go to the bottom of this page and make your mind (sorry for french parts of the text). Thanks.


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JoleGallo

"Jacques CORTELYOU Sr