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*Wednesday, [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Community Meeting 2012 October 10|10 Oct]]
 
*Wednesday, [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Community Meeting 2012 October 10|10 Oct]]
  
Today:
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===Purpose and life of the Wiki 15 minutes ===
1) Progress reports; 2) Church Records and Libraries tweaks; 3) Strategies: how to find birth information (US/Utah).
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*How does interactive teaching (see [http://www.ancestry.com/death Ancestry.com/death]) affect the effort and the content we put into the wiki? How long will this wiki be useful?
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**Beginners: teaching has changed in schools - to the lowest common denominator - chop off the top, the best, don't provide the deepest. Courses get people through a class, but no production after. Answering specific questions. Videos don't answer the specifics
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**More advanced tools: don't just give them a start with no place to go
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**Every ward in their stake has called 2 youth consultants: it has to become a tool they will use or it is going to die. They do training exercises to do real research, clean up the Family Tree, etc. They want to learn, but don't have the patience to read read read in the Wiki.
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**Wiki is not a video game, low graphics.
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**Perhaps it will become a support to supporters?
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**Not easy to recognize the value: SEO is an option
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**HRC's don't tout their value well -- providing the "back story" of the record
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**Don Anderson -- more for intermediate, advanced. They will keep it.
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**Ref counter: people introduced to it have appreciated it. Youth? In the meantime - help adults
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**How do I best allocate time: beginners need direction, but they are explorers. But it has to solve more than the "simple, typical"
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**We should get people there are quickly as possible, but cannot sacrifice citations, professionalism
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**Wiki can get detailed -- but presented not in an overwhelming way
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**Support for areas where we don't know much
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**Some things are simple. Some of it is NOT simple. After the beginner videos, then they will need someone live.
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**Cartoon: What are you looking for? My quarter. Why are you looking here? Because there is more light.
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**Takes understanding and effort to get past some issues.
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**Decision: Well-chosen graphics, but let's focus on data. Some soft teaching.
  
== Progress reports  ==
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*Then the typical agenda: 1) Progress reports; 2) Church Records and Libraries tweaks; 3) Strategies: how to find birth information (US/Utah).
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== Progress reports  Balance of meeting==
  
 
*Birth task: 1898-present segment:
 
*Birth task: 1898-present segment:
*Neighboring counties clickable maps:   
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*Neighboring counties clickable maps:  [[Weber County, Utah#Neighboring Counties|Weber County]] example
*SEO (Search Engine Optimizer)
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*SEO (Search Engine Optimizer) -- 5 minutes
 
**The practice paragraph for Beaver County moved it from page 14 to page 2.
 
**The practice paragraph for Beaver County moved it from page 14 to page 2.
**The paragraph was NOT part of the Google description.
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**The paragraph was NOT part of the Google description. (Show it)
 
**Needs tweaking so still effective, yet more subtle
 
**Needs tweaking so still effective, yet more subtle
*From last week: Expect to finish task descriptions for these areas of the counties: Libraries, History, Church:
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*From last week: "Expect to finish task descriptions for these areas of the counties: Libraries, History, Church" -- 10 minutes
 
**Results - not completed, progress. Tweaks needed.
 
**Results - not completed, progress. Tweaks needed.
 
**Tried an SEO paragraph in the [[Beaver, Utah LDS Church Wards and Branches|Church records]] pages
 
**Tried an SEO paragraph in the [[Beaver, Utah LDS Church Wards and Branches|Church records]] pages
 
**Names of Church records pages: are they good for SEO?
 
**Names of Church records pages: are they good for SEO?
*[[How to Find Birth Information in the United States]]:
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**Heading title [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Experimental County#Churches, Religions, and their records|Churches, Religions, and their records]] Decision: churches and religious groups
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**Quick look at [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Experimental County#Libraries|Libraries]] area
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***Name of the obtaining access page in tip
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***What to have on the county page, what to have on a separate page, linked from every county
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*[[How to Find Birth Information in the United States]]: See email from James -- 15 minutes
  
 
From previous meetings (no progress):  
 
From previous meetings (no progress):  
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*[[Utah Record Selection Table]] needs updating. (Just keeping on the list until done)
 
*[[Utah Record Selection Table]] needs updating. (Just keeping on the list until done)
  
== Idea share  45 minutes ==
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== Idea share  ==
 
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In progress reports this week
If time permits after each area is covered, can revisit any of these topics.
 
 
 
=== Google and our wiki 10 minutes ===
 
US/Canada had a preso from an SEO (Search Engine Optimizer). Patsy will present while I display
 
:file location:c:\my default area\1uga\utah wiki\SEO Training.docx
 
 
 
Patsy: do we want to make a paragraph and tweak it for SEO.
 
Please send Patsy your suggestions.
 
 
 
=== Church Records 15 minutes  ===
 
 
 
[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Experimental County#Church_Records|Church Records]]
 
 
 
After trying a different county (Box Elder), another challenge appeared:<br>
 
1) Several counties will have a long list of LDS Communities. There are 32 in Box Elder County. Do we want the list (in paragraph form?) anyway?<br>
 
1a) If yes, we can just give them the link to Jenson's and tell them to search it. We can also ask them for help and have a link to a task for linking to the timeline shell we have created.<br>
 
1b) If no, what SHALL we do?
 
 
 
=== How to find Birth Information pages 15 minutes ===
 
[[How to Find Birth Information in the United States]]
 
Adding strategies will be a milestone for the entire Wiki!
 
 
 
Found basic search strategies. Many all the same thing.
 
Needed:
 
*How to find specific records, such as probate.
 
*How to find specific information, such as Maiden names, names of parents, exact place of birth,
 
 
 
Family records: search strategies for finding, consolidated. Link to the US page. Use it as the basis for the Utah page, where we can be more explicit.
 
 
 
[[How to Find Birth Information in Utah]]
 
 
 
=== Utah Page ===
 
 
 
[[User:JanaStokes/Sandbox Test]]
 
 
 
This is really something that CAN make a big difference to the Wiki overall. The Thursday group expects to be part of the discussion and brainstorming.
 
  
 
=== Ideas we won't forget  ===
 
=== Ideas we won't forget  ===

Latest revision as of 15:39, 17 October 2012

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Agenda

Meeting Participants:

Wiki News

  • Problem with the CSS - bullets fixed last week but lines in tables still don't show. Engineers are aware, but feedback never hurts.

News and Events

Review of last meeting

Purpose and life of the Wiki 15 minutes

  • How does interactive teaching (see Ancestry.com/death) affect the effort and the content we put into the wiki? How long will this wiki be useful?
    • Beginners: teaching has changed in schools - to the lowest common denominator - chop off the top, the best, don't provide the deepest. Courses get people through a class, but no production after. Answering specific questions. Videos don't answer the specifics
    • More advanced tools: don't just give them a start with no place to go
    • Every ward in their stake has called 2 youth consultants: it has to become a tool they will use or it is going to die. They do training exercises to do real research, clean up the Family Tree, etc. They want to learn, but don't have the patience to read read read in the Wiki.
    • Wiki is not a video game, low graphics.
    • Perhaps it will become a support to supporters?
    • Not easy to recognize the value: SEO is an option
    • HRC's don't tout their value well -- providing the "back story" of the record
    • Don Anderson -- more for intermediate, advanced. They will keep it.
    • Ref counter: people introduced to it have appreciated it. Youth? In the meantime - help adults
    • How do I best allocate time: beginners need direction, but they are explorers. But it has to solve more than the "simple, typical"
    • We should get people there are quickly as possible, but cannot sacrifice citations, professionalism
    • Wiki can get detailed -- but presented not in an overwhelming way
    • Support for areas where we don't know much
    • Some things are simple. Some of it is NOT simple. After the beginner videos, then they will need someone live.
    • Cartoon: What are you looking for? My quarter. Why are you looking here? Because there is more light.
    • Takes understanding and effort to get past some issues.
    • Decision: Well-chosen graphics, but let's focus on data. Some soft teaching.
  • Then the typical agenda: 1) Progress reports; 2) Church Records and Libraries tweaks; 3) Strategies: how to find birth information (US/Utah).

Progress reports Balance of meeting

  • Birth task: 1898-present segment:
  • Neighboring counties clickable maps: Weber County example
  • SEO (Search Engine Optimizer) -- 5 minutes
    • The practice paragraph for Beaver County moved it from page 14 to page 2.
    • The paragraph was NOT part of the Google description. (Show it)
    • Needs tweaking so still effective, yet more subtle
  • From last week: "Expect to finish task descriptions for these areas of the counties: Libraries, History, Church" -- 10 minutes
    • Results - not completed, progress. Tweaks needed.
    • Tried an SEO paragraph in the Church records pages
    • Names of Church records pages: are they good for SEO?
    • Heading title Churches, Religions, and their records Decision: churches and religious groups
    • Quick look at Libraries area
      • Name of the obtaining access page in tip
      • What to have on the county page, what to have on a separate page, linked from every county
  • How to Find Birth Information in the United States: See email from James -- 15 minutes

From previous meetings (no progress):

  • Get documentation of Delayed Birth Registration - dates started, etc. (Says 1941 on state page, but no citation.) - Pat
  • Do the county newspaper pages - Wilma
  • Value and frequency of FHLC links - topic of a near future meeting.
  • Utah Record Selection Table needs updating. (Just keeping on the list until done)

Idea share

In progress reports this week

Ideas we won't forget

  • Tip Bank