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Home page mock-up[edit source]

New Wiki Users
Help:Contributor Help
New to Genealogy
New to Genealogy
Welcoming Committee
Professional Genealogists
Live Community Meetings
Live Meetings
A Community that Loves Family History

Everyone Knows Something of Value - Share it!

How to Genealogy How to Wiki Community Center Community News
Featured Articles Hidden Treasures
Germany Genealogy
As a result of wars and political realignments, the internal and external boundaries of Germany have changed . . .
New York Census
New York Census
Census takers enumerated Manhattan (New York County) twice in 1870 . . .
Pacific Island Guide to Family History Research
Pacific Island Guide to Family History Research
Because Pacific Island family history is based largely on an oral tradition . . .
Chinese Genealogy
To learn how to begin doing Chinese research . . .
FamilySearch Wiki FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose, Policies, and Procedures & FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose, Policies, and Procedures

Info on home page mock-up[edit source]

This mock-up does not include background images, header (logo & sign in/out), or footer (about us, contact us, licenses, AddThis widget), or side-bar (another section).

I have created this mock-up based upon Kara's mock-up based upon the study group she had. More tweaking is needed . . . this is really more about layout. I know some adjustments are needed with images and some links. It also does not have the suggested changes to the side-bar which includes the navigation.

Thomas_Lerman 23:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

How about the "buttons" being the color of the footer (where "About Us", "Contact Us", etc. are) and the "Featured Articles" & "Toolbox" being the color of the header (where the FamilySearch logo and Sign In/Out is). This would allow the "buttons" to still have normal link colors and add some other color to the other boxes? The thing I do not like about the "buttons" is that they do not necessarily look like links. Thomas_Lerman 00:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I have tweaked all of the images. The only thing left here are the "buttons". The number of images on the top has increased from 3 to 5. Thomas_Lerman 23:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Color Options[edit source]

Below are some options that include other possibilities for the "buttons" and the column headings:

Color option 1[edit source]

How to Genealogy How to Wiki Community Center Community News
Featured Articles Hidden Treasures

Color option 2[edit source]

How to Genealogy How to Wiki Community Center Community News
Featured Articles Hidden Treasures

Color option 3[edit source]

How to Genealogy How to Wiki Community Center Community News
Featured Articles Hidden Treasures

Color option 4[edit source]

How to Genealogy How to Wiki Community Center Community News
Featured Articles Hidden Treasures

Color option 5[edit source]

How to Genealogy How to Wiki Community Center Community News
Featured Articles Hidden Treasures

Color option 6[edit source]

How to Genealogy How to Wiki Community Center Community News
Featured Articles Hidden Treasures

Comments on color options[edit source]

  • Buttons: I personally prefer the ones in Option #1 and #2 as they still look and act like links.
  • Headings: I suppose it is six of one and a half dozen of the other (between #1 & #2). Maybe #2 just slightly more as it stands out.

Comments on home page[edit source]

What do you think? Thomas_Lerman 23:54, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

There are several images at the top of the page that at first I thought were just images. Then I moved the mouse over an image and discovered they were actually links that would take me somewhere else in the Wiki. After hovering over each image to read the labels, I couldn't remember what each image was linked to, so I had to hover over the images again to figure out where they would take me. The images in-an-of-themselves don't communicate a specific feature or page in the Wiki. Overall, the whole page design is busy. Lots to look at. Too many choices. --Fran 18:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Great comments. Those 5 images do not really need to go anywhere if we do not want to. Just thought I would try that out for fun and get a reaction. I imagine we will get all sorts of responses . . . this makes both ends of the spectrum represented (very clean & easy to follow -to- busy & too many choices). All responses are appreciated. Thomas_Lerman 02:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

From Jimmy on 08Mar:

Hey, pretty cool! I sure like it better than the "bland" one we have there now. I like the visuals for the featured articles. And I like the boxes with topics at the right for hidden treasures, etc. It's inviting to read more.

And Kara from yesterday:

oh I forgot to give you feedback from the professional (writing for the church for 8 years and big into advertising etc) - he said to:

  1. label the pictures with the name of the link they are going to - like New Wiki Users so you have it in writing and can refer to it
  2. make the buttons (the four boxes that are links: How to Genealogy, How to Wiki, Community Center, & Community News) - or where you want people to go the darker color. He would reverse the color schemes
  3. make the labels of the featured articles and hidden treasure in smaller font and lighter color
  4. He liked the community center page better :) . . . had almost no changes for it
  5. he said you want the darker color to be on where you want people to go - their eyes will go to the darker colors first

Thomas_Lerman 17:21, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Concerning Kara's comments on
  1. I can make them images go nowhere or put text below. I mostly did the links for the fun of it.
  2. The problem with changing the colors on the "buttons" is that the link color may not be so obvious. I am hoping to be able to do something slightly different soon.
  3. Could do.
Thomas_Lerman 18:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Replace top five photos with photos that serve a function[edit source]

The top five photos in the mockup take up a lot of real estate, make the home page too busy, and don't serve any function. Some are old and some are modern, which also leaves me puzzled. I think we should learn from the current home page of WikiHow. We should get images that depict the top three things people should do on our site and feature these three things like WikiHow features their big Learn, Write, and Wiki buttons.  RitcheyMT 03:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

They do serve a function. While they are missing the captions, each of the five phots is a link (thanks to Thomas Lerman's expert wikitext coding). There are two reasons people visit the wik (in my mind): to find out things (read) and to contribute (write). Reading takes in both Beginning Research (I wonder if anyone who is beginning their research will ever visit the wiki before they start?) and searching for pages dealing with their research areas. The "Wiki" button isn't about wiki's but how to contribute, including editing. All lot of this is semantics, but for newbies, we have to speak their language. Tom Huber 04:51, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay, I now see (as I mouse over the photos) that each one leads to a certain wiki page. But as Tom Huber mentions, these images don't have captions saying where they lead. If I had to have the function of these photo/links explained to me, what does that say about their intuitiveness?
When one creates a link in a Website, is a photo and some mouseover text enough to create an intuitive user navigation experience? Or should the image/link include a visible text caption so users can tell where it points?
Vincent Flanders, an author of Website design books, coined a term to describe any link in a Website that requires the user to mouse over the link before he can decipher where it will lead. Flanders calls this "mystery meat navigation." The term refers us back to our childhood days in the school cafeteria when they'd serve us some kind of processed meat but nobody could tell what kind it was by looking at it. Flanders recommends that every image-based link should have visible text (not just mouseover text) that says where the link will lead. I seem to recall that many other Web designers agree with Flanders.
I believe that in this case, adding text to these photographic links may be necessary for another reason. I, for one, just am not smart enough to tell by looking at these pictures where they are going to lead. The photos just don't speak to me as if they were intuitive icons in a piece of software. When I'm in MS Word and I see an icon that looks like a printer, I know that button means "print." But looking at the FSWiki mockup, when I see the picture of the grinning lady with the basket on her head, I can't predict that it'll link to a page for new wiki users. So it seems to me at this moment that the need to add captions to these link/images may be twofold: First, some users like me aren't smart enough to guess where the current photos might lead. Second, Web design gurus say that image links should have captions so that folks like me who aren't smart enough to guess where the images will lead won't have to mouse over each one to find out. RitcheyMT 21:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)