Family Notes on Marriage with Phoebe Campbell: Title: Notes Text: Here are a few things I've ran across in my search of the Campbell Line. J J Dickey diary of Phoebe Noble says: " My father was Lewis Campbell. His father was John Campbell. He came to Breathitt Co. from Shenandoah Valley soon after the Nobles came to this country/ They came first to the mouth of Lost Creek, then moved to the mouth of Lot's Creek. John Campbell then left the country and nothing was ever heard of him. Their children were: ZACK, Caleb, Lewis, Patsey (Grigsby), Susan (Roberts), Polly (Miller), Nancy & Sallie. They lived and died there. " Then there was James Campbell in the diary saying: " that is father was Francis Campbell and James grandfather was John Campbell born in NC and married a COUCH. " Then you further read that a Mrs. Sarah (Campbell) Baker goes on to say" that her father was William Campbell (b/ 1800) and his wife was Polly Couch. Further says that her mother was a FRIAR and her maternal grandmother was a Roark." These were off of REEL #3 of the J J Dickey Diaries...... The following is listed in the Pioneer Ghosts of KY by Wilma Winton.. Campbell, Phoebe Rl#3 pg. 2417 July 1898 Campbell, William Rl#3 pg. 2418,2433-5 July 1898 Campbell, William I & II Rl#3 pg 2435-36 July 1898 Campbell, Zachery (son of John) Z.T.Campbell Rl#1 pg. 282, Rl#2 pg# 1254, Rl#3 pg# 2418,2433 April 1884/Aug 1889 Lost Creek/Jackson... Campbell, "old" John I & wife Rl#1 pg #599, Rl#3 pg 2277.2289.2418.2433 April 1886/April 1898, Jackson.. Campbell John II & Polly Couch Rl#3 pg 2433,2435,2418 1898.. Campbell, John III (son of John & Polly) Rl# 3 pg.# 2418, 2433-6 July 1898... Then further research of the Couch family ... John Couch Sr. married Mary Polly Boone and then Elizabeth Campbell James in which Elizabeth divorced Patrick Campbell. Patrick was born @ 1726 & d/ 1799. Children of John Couch Sr & Elizabeth Campbell James John Couch Jr. m/Jannett "Jane" Campbell (b/ 1775)Campbell Nancy Ann Couch (b/ 1762) m/William Campbell @1794 (10 children) Mary Polly Couch m/ John Campbell @ 1789 (NOW in these notes it's been noted as: John Campbell of Scotland came to NC. Three sons: John, WIlliam & Zachariah lived in Clay Perry, Breathitt & Letcher counties) Mary & John had 14 children:{James, John Jack, Sarah, Mary, Williwm W., Francis Frank, Elijah, Issac, Hiram, Rebecca, Stephen, Polly, Elizabeth & Samuel}. Which this line goes all the way down to Tim Couch of the football teams Cincinnati Bengals & Cleveland Browns. John Campbell 1674 Drumboden Londonderry Ireland Patrick Campbell 1696 Patrick Campbell 1726 John Campbell 1763 Francis Campbell 1800 Joseph Campbell 1841 Hardy Campbell 1888 Edna Campbell 1925 (my grandmother) Verification is needed for I have one line going as far back as 1320 Archibald Gillespie Campbell (12 generations back from John Campbell of 1674), but another one that names different names further back from John of 1674??? 1900 Breathitt County Census Phoebe campbell Noble a widow living with her son William Nathan Noble About NOBLE, George Washington (Buckeye) 1850 Breathitt Census 217-217, NOBLE, George, W., 26, M, Farmer, 300, KY Pheobe, 21, F, KY Lewis, H., 2, M Missouri Ann, 10/12, F 1860 Breathitt Census 585/585 NOBLE, G.W,37 M Farmer1,500 500 Perry Co NOBLE, Phoebe 32 F Perry Co Lewis H. 12 M Breathitt Co Missouri A. 9 F Breathitt Co William A. 7 M Breathitt Co James B.? 4 M Breathitt Co Caleb J. 1 M Breathitt Co About CAMPBELL, Phoebe Jane Posted by jstamper@mis.net Breathitt Co Rootsweb Board: ......The Campbells of the Lost Creek and Troublesome Creek areas of Breathitt and Perry Co's have long claimed to descend from a Zachariah Campbell, who they say came to this area quite early. I can find no documented record of this Zachariah, and I believe many of the descendants may be in error. Instead, I believe that the progenitor of these Campbells was John Campbell - but not the John Campbell of Perry Co. who married Mary 'Polly' Couch. There was another old John Campbell in this area, and he came here by 1805 or so....... No, there are no known birth and death dates for this John/Zach. I surmised a birth date of ca. 1760 based on the wife's birth of ca. 1762. Phoebe Campbell Noble said her grandfather John 'left the country' and wasn't heard of again. This apparently happened, if it happened, between 1810-1820. The 1820 Clay Co. census shows a 'Nancy Camel', age 45 or over, as head of a household next to John Roberts and Will Clemons, two men who are known to have married daughters of this mysterious Campbell ancestor. I think it is safe to say that Nancy Campbell, age 88, living with John Grigsby and wife Martha Patsy Campbell Grigsby in 1850 was Patsy's mother although the census of 1850 did not specify relationships. One clue is that John and Martha 'Patsy' had a daughter Nancy who had been born in 1818 and later became the wife of Gabriel Richie. I concluded that the mother Nancy had come back to the Lotts Creek area once again in her old days. It is clear that after the disappearance of John Campbell from the records, she had gone back to the Lost Creek area (as indicated by the 1820 census.)........ I can find NO record of this Zachariah - no land claims, no appearance on tax lists or census records, etc. I find it hard to believe that anybody who lived in this area, even for just a few years, would have left no trace of his existence in public records. Phoebe Campbell Noble said in 1898 that her paternal grandfather's name was John, not Zachariah. She did have a grandfather named Zachariah, but that was Zachariah Fugate on her mother's side. Her father, Lewis Campbell, married Matilda Fugate. I ask you to consider whether it is possible that in handing down information someone might have gotten these lines confused and assigned the name Zachariah to the Campbell side when it should have assigned the name to the Fugate side. Phoebe Campbell Noble said that after first settling near the mouth of Lost Creek her grandfather John Campbell moved his family to the mouth of Lotts Creek in present-day Perry Co. I do find a John Campbell whom I cannot account for listed in the Lotts Creek area on the 1810 tax list. (He was not the other John who married Polly Couch. This John was on that same tax list but in a different area.) There were definitely two old John Campbells in this area in 1810. I also consider the fact that two children of this first Campbell family married into Lotts Creek families -- Smith and Grigsby. Nancy Campbell, the wife of this first Campbell ancestor, b. ca. 1762, was still living in 1850 with her daughter Martha 'Patsy' Campbell Grigsby on Lotts Creek in Perry Co. (See 1850 Perry Co. census) I have nothing to disprove the truth of Phoebe Campbell Noble's statement except the long standing family tradition that our first Campbell ancestor in this area was named Zachariah. I also believe that the odds are very small that she did not know the correct name of her own grandfather....... Nancy Sherley/Shirley married JOHN CAMPBELL on August 31, 1789 in Shenandoah Co., VA. The marriage record does not call him Zachariah. I have no proof that this is the same John Campbell who appears on the 1810 Clay Co., tax list, but I have a hunch that it may be. The Grigsbys and Danger Nicholas Combs came here from Shenandoah Co., and people had a tendency to migrate in groups or follow their friends, relatives, or neighbors from one area to another. So when I find that this John Campbell married in Shenandoah Co., I wonder whether it's the same John who came here, especially since I find John Campbell living next to them in 1810. Phoebe Campbell Noble said her grandfather came here from 'the Shenandoah Valley', but did name a county. I cannot prove any relationship between the John living in the Lotts Creek area in 1810 and the other John listed on the same tax list living in the Krypton/Yerkes area of what is now Perry Co. The other John Campbell married Mary 'Polly' Couch. His brother William also came to these parts with him. William married Polly's sister Nancy Couch. John and William's children are pretty well documented by interviews from the Dickey Diary. I don't have the names of this John and William's children at hand right now, or I would list them here. Phoebe Campbell Noble said that her grandfather John disappeared ('left the country') and was never heard of again. Family Notes on Marriage with Phoebe Campbell: Title: George Washiongton Noble Text: October 1862: George Washington Noble is killed by Captain Bill Strong's men, 14th KY Cavalry [US], on Barge Branch, Breathitt Co. ...We had not been at home long before an old slave by the name of Bailey came and told us that the Yankees waylaid the house of Uncle Washington, and when he came out had shot him right thru the body, and had shot at the old man. That was James Noble, his master. The old man had started up to see his brother, Washington, whom they had shot. His little boy had run down for the old man, and they were waylaying for him. They knew he would come that way. They were on a point at the mouth of a hollow where they were going to turn off to go to the river and as he came up opposite to them they began firing at him with out even saying a word to him. He was an old graybearded man. He turned around and looked at them and said, " Look at my gray hairs; you can't kill me, for God is with me." He said the Lord showed him that they could not hurt a hair on his head. He said there were about 15 in the crowd, and they just shouldered their guns and walked off, and he never moved until they got out of sight. About 12 o'clock Washington Noble died. [G. W. Noble, pp. 22/23] He was killed by Kim McIntosh and Hen Kilburn. [William Murphy] Note: George Washington Noble was the son of Nathan Noble and Virginia Neace