Community Meeting Agenda 13 October 2009

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Administrative items

 * 1) Assignment of time keeper and note taker
 * 2) Introduction of new members: 10 seconds for name and desired takeaways.
 * 3) Review of Minutes
 * 4) Today's agenda preview

Articles about Record Search Collections
This is an item about presentation/style rather than content. The latest version of Record Search links to articles in this Research Wiki by using a Collection ID added to the bottom of the relevant articles (see Category:FamilySearch Record Collections). Back in August I asked one of the contributors some questions about these references. The first question has now been answered. I had guessed as much, but now the purpose for these IDs is clear. However some questions remain unanswered and I have repeated them in Talk:Collection ID. Personally I would prefer to have the ID included in such a way to at least remove them from the Table of Contents or even better hide them in comment tags, for example  (with or without the level 6 headers), so that they are hidden from readers (or is it important that they be seen?). From my point of view, unknown factors about this issue are; What is the process by which the Record Search links to the wiki aricticle? What are the requirements for the process to find the CID in the article?

On a secondary related issue, these articles include or will include, links back to Record Search. These links are currently pointing at  I have created a template CID (see England Vital Records Index for an example of it being used), that can be used to link to Record Search and would mean that if/when the URL changes in the future, just the template would need amending and not each article. If others agree, then I hope the benefits of using the template can be put to the Record Search developers so that the effort in maintaining these links can be minimised. --Steve 14:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I have been in discussions with someone at headquarters in response to similar items / questions that I had. This was before I realize this was set for a discussion item. I am not sure how technical they are. I have made various recommendations including generating text & links with templates, but they are a bit resistant possibly because of their technical level, lack of Wiki experience/understanding, or a myriad of other possibilities. I have given them information on how to not have the information in the table of contents, at least. They will be taking this to the engineering people. I do not know positively know what is the process for linking Record Search to a Research Wiki article. However, I believe it is an automated method . . . such as it searches for a specific string of text within the Wiki database. Any changes to that text would require changes to the Record Search. Personally, I believe that should be a very easy change. My recommendations would be to use a template to generate the text with whatever formatting they want and change what Record Search looks for. Personally, I am very against the idea of referring to Record Search as "cid". To me and I believe others, that makes as much sense as referring to Ancestry as "dbid". Both of which is what is used internally and in their URLs. Thomas Lerman 22:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)